tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post115004739405464075..comments2023-10-24T06:11:45.550-04:00Comments on Namaste': Karenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150247736035381282006-06-13T21:15:00.000-04:002006-06-13T21:15:00.000-04:00o ceallaigh~ never too late and welcome! good deba...o ceallaigh~ never too late and welcome! good debate!<BR/><BR/>... as far as: "we are where we are today because of Clinton's willy, and the failure of Democrats to distance themselves from that symbol of personal immorality"...<BR/><BR/>...personally, i feel that was true initially but it has gone way past that now; that said, the dems DO need to get their act together, stand up and speak out! Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150246658828344512006-06-13T20:57:00.000-04:002006-06-13T20:57:00.000-04:00I'm a day late on this (as usual, and you may add ...I'm a day late on this (as usual, and you may add "a dollar short", actually several) but I thought it might be friendly to give Doug some backup here.<BR/><BR/>Exit polling certainly is NOT an exact science. Somebody's doing some selling here. No scientist not forced to work with humans and their persnicketiness about being poked and prodded would <I>dare</I> accept such miniscule and The amoebahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09997830489035965913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150217190470459632006-06-13T12:46:00.000-04:002006-06-13T12:46:00.000-04:00Thanks everyone for the great debate and a special...Thanks everyone for the great debate and a special *thank you* to puppytoes, aka, Neva, for the mind boggling topic suggestion.<BR/><BR/>Please email me or leave your comment here at Namaste' for future MONDAY MEME! debate ideas!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150168706112516832006-06-12T23:18:00.000-04:002006-06-12T23:18:00.000-04:00love you too girl...mr puddins and Blove you too girl...<BR/><BR/>mr puddins and Bbronxbthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00064918223549408940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150165369221514702006-06-12T22:22:00.000-04:002006-06-12T22:22:00.000-04:00i read Kennedy's article online in the Rolling Sto...i read Kennedy's article online in the Rolling Stones, I think Independent Christian Voice (Scribe on my blogroll) linked it. If Kennedy's facts are able to be verfied, there should be some kind of hearing on this, but we can forget it, unless after the 2006 elections the Republicans are out of both houses. I would like to go back to the good old days (most of the 90s) when one party controlledsagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499891950639742366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150161625586426062006-06-12T21:20:00.000-04:002006-06-12T21:20:00.000-04:00Mike (hale mckay)... see where your coming from on...Mike (hale mckay)... see where your coming from on the Kennedys. It didn't start out that way with Jack, at least I didn't think so at the time but then I was young and foolish.<BR/><BR/>Never knew about Kennedy senior's antics at that time and wouldn't have believed 'em if I did. Like I said, a young and *starry-eyed* romantic over CamelotKarenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150159292231011552006-06-12T20:41:00.000-04:002006-06-12T20:41:00.000-04:00I'm afraid I am unable to comment on the issue its...I'm afraid I am unable to comment on the issue itself. There is no way, that I can ever give any credence to <B>anything</B> a Kennedy <B>ever</B> says. The world would've been a better place had Rose Kennedy been sterile!<BR/>...Sorry, but to me an honest Kennedy is as good as the worst Republican!Hale McKayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02548008024457474809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150153813384249272006-06-12T19:10:00.000-04:002006-06-12T19:10:00.000-04:00yeah Doug, i knew we were on the same page here! (...yeah Doug, i knew we were on the same page here! (Karen, with you it goes without saying!)... and, for the record, i'm only a democrat by default. in all honesty, i don't like any of 'em. but, by golly, when i vote, i sure as hell want it to count! yours too! <BR/><BR/>on that note, just let me say i can't <I>wait</I> to see what happens in your state this year... remember, i'm from there, too! (puppytoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164752647709177604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150151012493837022006-06-12T18:23:00.000-04:002006-06-12T18:23:00.000-04:00Not to fear, Karen, I can breathe underwater. Oh ...Not to fear, Karen, I can breathe underwater. Oh you meant you?<BR/><BR/>Puppytoes, and I love using that name in a political debate, I really am with you on the conclusion. Unless someone will someday prove that the election was stolen, it doesn't seem like the most productive topic but absolutely, I'm worried about the voting system. I don't especially have a party I like but it matters thatDoug The Unahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04753071669562594194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150150741826484652006-06-12T18:19:00.000-04:002006-06-12T18:19:00.000-04:00Wow! been gone all day and come back to find this ...Wow! been gone all day and come back to find this great debate!! It's mind boggling to read all these comments from my wonderful blogger buds... lots of *food for thought*. <BR/><BR/>Jeez, all of us here could run this ole country a hellva lot better than the bushies have been.<BR/><BR/>That said, puppytoes sums up my feelings so far... "this country could be swept into a raging river of Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150149997441848532006-06-12T18:06:00.000-04:002006-06-12T18:06:00.000-04:00Doug: and yet, Kennedy cites examples of exit-poll...Doug: and yet, Kennedy cites examples of exit-poll discrepancies in Germany, which forced Sheverdnadze out of office, and the Ukraine, which cost Yushchenko the presidency (and which was paid for by the Bush administration, by the way!) as a means of supporting the theory that these polls are regarded as highly accurate.<BR/><BR/>of course, it's possible the pollsters oversampled women and young puppytoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164752647709177604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150146920956257972006-06-12T17:15:00.000-04:002006-06-12T17:15:00.000-04:00Puppytoes, my understanding and I have no citation...Puppytoes, my understanding and I have no citation, but it was reported that the exit polls oversampled women and young adults, both Democratic leaning groups. <BR/><BR/>Calling exit-polling scientific is a little bit misleading. It depends on some smart guesses and the larger and more diverse (and more polarized) a country is, the more a bad guess affects the results. The most suspicious part Doug The Unahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04753071669562594194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150143151809552082006-06-12T16:12:00.000-04:002006-06-12T16:12:00.000-04:00Between puppytoes and doug, there isn't much more ...Between puppytoes and doug, there isn't much more to be said.<BR/><BR/>Great comments.Jack K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10619303846748379807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150141659195721842006-06-12T15:47:00.000-04:002006-06-12T15:47:00.000-04:00Doug! First just let me say "whoa"... I'm beyond i...Doug! First just let me say "whoa"... I'm <I>beyond</I> impressed! Also? You said your comments would be "evil", and yet, I find them to be incredibly thoughtful and, in fact, correct... up to a <I>point</I>! <BR/><BR/>It's unfortunate the on-line article doesn't include some of the side-bar information, which nicely puts this article in perspective.<BR/><BR/>One of the most glaring points the puppytoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164752647709177604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150136961507988992006-06-12T14:29:00.000-04:002006-06-12T14:29:00.000-04:00Wow, I think that was my longest comment ever.Wow, I think that was my longest comment ever.Doug The Unahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04753071669562594194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150136932682392002006-06-12T14:28:00.000-04:002006-06-12T14:28:00.000-04:00Hi, Karen. I'm here at Puppytoes' invitation. Ho...Hi, Karen. I'm here at Puppytoes' invitation. Hope you don't mind.<BR/><BR/>My opinion/instigation is this: A lot of RFK's 'facts' weren't compelling to me for a few reasons. One is that they aren't comparative and the other is the question as to why the election was stealable.<BR/><BR/>So, first, I think it is not good enough to talk about how many overseas U.S. citizens received their Doug The Unahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04753071669562594194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150132712882116312006-06-12T13:18:00.000-04:002006-06-12T13:18:00.000-04:00I'M SO GLAD you decided to post this, Karen! i kne...I'M SO GLAD you decided to post this, Karen! i knew it would light a fire... and how could it <I>not</I>? my mother has even requested a copy of the article!<BR/><BR/>frankly, we had the same visceral reaction you did election night. i mean, it just didn't make sense to think the exit polls could be so far off the mark. i kept saying to joel... "something's happened, i don't know what, but this puppytoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164752647709177604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150125907697770772006-06-12T11:25:00.000-04:002006-06-12T11:25:00.000-04:00Ok reading that is enough to make me loose my lunc...Ok reading that is enough to make me loose my lunch.... <BR/><BR/>I read the entire article and kept thinking that perhaps this needed to happen. This wasn't the first time votes were not counted.... and not the first election stolen. Perhaps we need something like this to wake us up, inspire and outrage us enough so that it does not happen again. <BR/><BR/>I'm enraged and motivated - the ckmunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106706816218952767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14405650.post-1150110228683496342006-06-12T07:03:00.000-04:002006-06-12T07:03:00.000-04:00Arrrrgh. I just checked out the RFK, jr. link. pup...Arrrrgh. I just checked out the RFK, jr. link. puppytoes is right this should piss off everyone, including the Pope.<BR/><BR/>We will all have to be more vigilant for the next election.<BR/><BR/>I just hope the DNC doesn't even think about stooping so low.<BR/><BR/>PS: This is a copy of the comment after reading puppytoes comment. Double ARRRGH!<BR/><BR/>PPS: I even corrected the spelling this Jack K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10619303846748379807noreply@blogger.com